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The virtues of pain at the pumps

The Globe And Mail -- Both the Liberal and Conservative plans to cut greenhouse-gas emissions will raise gasoline prices, experts warned the House of Commons industry committee this week. That's a good thing. Though it may be shocking to say so, Canada's gas is very arguably too cheap. In any case, keeping it that way would require subsidies such as were doled out from 1973 to 1984, in the self-defeating policy of made-in-Canada oil prices.

A quick glance across the Atlantic reveals how lucky Canadian motorists still are. In Britain, France, Germany and Italy, average prices are about double Canada's, largely due to steep taxes.

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Submitted Aug 29, 2008 By: JT

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gas101CA All-Star Author California Posts:632 Points:76,455 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 3, 2008 12:52:23 AM Ignore gas101CA Report Abuse yeah good article
magnumCA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,219 Points:438,950 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 2, 2008 9:28:26 PM Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse Excellent article
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:6,740 Points:739,385 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2008 12:32:43 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse no pain, no virtue
magnumCA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,219 Points:438,950 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 31, 2008 12:21:22 PM Ignore magnumCA Report Abuse There are no virtues
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,873 Points:882,160 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 9:46:19 PM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Well ... maybe I should, but I'm finding it hard to feel lucky these days.
kbierley Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,617 Points:926,155 Joined:Nov 2003	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 2:16:42 PM Ignore kbierley Report Abuse Drill for American Oil, NOW!
JoeKR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,215 Points:995,445 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 1:42:54 PM Ignore JoeKR Report Abuse We can drill now and postpone the inevitable, but that won't prevent our gas prices from going up. We can continue to conserve and crusade for alternative fuels. Or, we can prepare for life in the United States of OPEC.
billy44bo Champion Author Mobile Posts:2,552 Points:475,895 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 12:45:15 PM Ignore billy44bo Report Abuse Nobama will make those steep taxes look like a trip to the movies if he gets in. DRILL here and keep our money here
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baddog58 All-Star Author Texas Posts:871 Points:318,400 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 12:01:23 PM Ignore baddog58 Report Abuse "The Virtues of Pain at the Pumps" sounds like something straight out of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" autobiography.
woos777 Champion Author Washington Posts:2,611 Points:864,055 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:50:57 AM Ignore woos777 Report Abuse Get out the old whipping post. Is that 1 P or 2 P's?
pricechecker08 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,236 Points:664,465 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:42:55 AM Ignore pricechecker08 Report Abuse GETTING IMUNE TO THE PAIN
dreamweaver7050 Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,174 Points:574,390 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:40:06 AM Ignore dreamweaver7050 Report Abuse Canada again
DerHahn Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,115 Points:975,735 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:38:46 AM Ignore DerHahn Report Abuse gas is too cheap? must be nice to be rich and not have to worry about being to gas up your car just to get to work while tying to feed the family with food prices up as well and so many people only making minimum wage or out of work all together.
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:3,733 Points:1,942,100 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:36:33 AM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse Pain is a virtue? What is this, the Middle Ages?
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weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,060 Points:771,275 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:36:03 AM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse Interesting spin. Let's all do something painful for the environment.
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ironbox_sara Champion Author Albany Posts:3,844 Points:1,126,270 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:34:21 AM Ignore ironbox_sara Report Abuse Too cheap? Say what???
Cuzilla Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:7,981 Points:1,395,585 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:29:50 AM Ignore Cuzilla Report Abuse Only bureaucrats and media toadies can find virtue in others pain!
duriarte All-Star Author Utah Posts:899 Points:408,230 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:28:34 AM Ignore duriarte Report Abuse Somebody should straighten this guy out.
rbrowdersr Champion Author Detroit Posts:2,417 Points:837,125 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:25:40 AM Ignore rbrowdersr Report Abuse Can't imagine any virtures here.
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kevski Champion Author Oregon Posts:4,168 Points:660,395 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:14:38 AM Ignore kevski Report Abuse raising gas prices is a good thing?????
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redrunnerWA Rookie Author Spokane Posts:87 Points:176,065 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:10:59 AM Ignore redrunnerWA Report Abuse Obviously written by someone who lives in an urban area and figures that we all want to join them. People in rural areas may choose to be there due to lifestyle, family connections or other reasons. The feasibility of mass transit to these areas is limited and has diminished in recent times -- remember Greyhound's reduction in the recent past? I agree with an earlier comment -- comparing Canada to Europe makes no sense. The geographic scope and time of 'habitation' are totally different and contributes to differences in city/rural and mass transit development.
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Terrapinone Champion Author Baltimore Posts:2,586 Points:991,745 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 11:04:00 AM Ignore Terrapinone Report Abuse lucky is a relative term [Edited by: Terrapinone at 8/30/2008 11:04:27 AM EST]
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DTape Rookie Author Houston Posts:98 Points:519,540 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:56:39 AM Ignore DTape Report Abuse Old news and you whiners need to eat some cheese with your wines... We see the Canadian news because it does have some impact on our lives, as well as the fact that GasBuddy is used in Canada as much as it is in the U.S.A.
Don20 Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:3,867 Points:1,474,165 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:56:05 AM Ignore Don20 Report Abuse This will all be fixed after Nov Election. You believe that I have some beach front property for sale.
chas_commuter All-Star Author South Carolina Posts:831 Points:226,730 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:55:24 AM Ignore chas_commuter Report Abuse Don't people realize that the "carbon offset" movement is a get rich scheme orchestrated by Al Gore?
jackson661 Champion Author Columbus Posts:1,390 Points:413,380 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:54:47 AM Ignore jackson661 Report Abuse It will go up after lifestyle changes lower demand.
WestsideGuyIN All-Star Author Indiana Posts:875 Points:188,645 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:53:53 AM Ignore WestsideGuyIN Report Abuse Why does this author compare Canada to Europe. Why not the US? If you want to compare across countries, you need to adjust for currency fluctuation and services provided. Much of those steep taxes go to pay for things that we have to buy here. If you really want to do a comparison, you have to add in all the costs so that you can actually compare apples to apples.
C4U Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:3,374 Points:644,515 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:53:17 AM Ignore C4U Report Abuse Cutting back green house emissions is a good thing but not at the expense of the consumer to get richer, the additional costs should go to pay down taxes.
ardmoretoday Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:1,424 Points:569,265 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:49:11 AM Ignore ardmoretoday Report Abuse Old news
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EXTREMESNOW Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,645 Points:782,560 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:45:22 AM Ignore EXTREMESNOW Report Abuse I'M SURE IT WILL ALL GO BACK UP EVENTUALY.
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cantonbill All-Star Author Atlanta Posts:532 Points:130,525 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:39:01 AM Ignore cantonbill Report Abuse Yesterday's news
TTPDX Sophomore Author Portland Posts:231 Points:42,795 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:37:16 AM Ignore TTPDX Report Abuse No pain no gain? Oh wait, it's our pain, their gain...
GasaHawg All-Star Author Texas Posts:620 Points:127,570 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:35:24 AM Ignore GasaHawg Report Abuse Getting screwed on gasoline is luck? Oh' not getting screwed as bad is lucky. GIMME A BREAK!!!!!
mwhals Champion Author Charleston Posts:7,684 Points:1,296,785 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:34:17 AM Ignore mwhals Report Abuse Canada's gas is too cheap? What is this guy smoking?
BeaverBilly Champion Author Alberta Posts:4,097 Points:1,402,630 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: Aug 30, 2008 10:32:05 AM Ignore BeaverBilly Report Abuse BULL S H_T! We are EXPENSIVE compared to the USA. Lets talk about a comparison to the USA where we can drive across the border? I don't think we in Canada and USA motorists are going to drive across the Atlantic till a bridge gets built. We pay almost $5.00 per US gallon now. No wonder Canadians go to the US to shop. US tourists are staying away from here so they don't get RIPPED OFF like we Canadians.