honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: May 14, 2012 5:40:52 AM
CdnLynx: wise words of caution.
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Agarre

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Richmond
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 8:33:46 AM
Cyber attack on Gas pipelines ?
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pbear316

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Akron
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 6:37:58 AM
It's surprising how easy it is to get people to click on a link.
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Virgin55

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Ocala
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 2:51:03 AM
ok
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CdnLynx

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Ontario
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 2:37:52 AM
At one time the western alliances were and still are tested time and again; remember when soviet bombers flew to provoke NORAD, to respond fighters and vice verse. Military forces the world over continue to this day to probe their competitors; espionage around the world is active as we speak. DO Not kid yourself; everybody is looking for an advantage. This is not just the realm of terrorists. With the internet, cyber-world has become a new echelon and has now become a verified battlefield. It is not just gamers playing games on the net. The internet is actually a battlefield, where there are weaknesses and prizes to be one. This site, where we sometimes battle others with words is a microcosm of this very battlefield; and yes we are being watched! This world is very powerful and is a powerful as the ideas that we pen here.
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hank1326

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 1:45:18 AM
I am with nomad228. Find them and put them in jail.
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afghaned

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Hamilton
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 1:03:01 AM
Old news.
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TustinDad

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Orange County
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:39:00 AM
I am surprised how naive many posters are around here. This is not a hack that could have been stopped by not opening email attachments, installing anti-virus software, have a better firewall (maybe a little help there) or not putting the information on the internet (where it isn't). This is an organized attack on several levels that can, and probably will, take months to resolve, especially if some of the gas pipeline operators have a global internal network. Any little vulnerability anywhere in that network anywhere in the world is enough for the hacker to gain access to the network. The hacker has most likely made a dozen hops before he got in to the network, so it is not trivial to detect where he really is.
Luckily, the people at CERT are the professionals and with a little bit of luck, and a lot of cooperation from the hacked organization, it can be resolved, but it will take time.
Don't blame DHS, they have no means to monitor this unless the hacked organization alerts them.
[Edited by: TustinDad at 5/10/2012 12:39:11 AM EST]
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KrsnaDragon

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Montreal
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:31:36 AM
Destructive, anti-social deeds serve to destroy and isolate their actor.
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HailstormCA

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San Diego
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:29:33 AM
Aggggggh!
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TustinDad

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Orange County
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:28:25 AM
milespergallon wrote: "Another example of how dysfunctional the dhs and most other governmental agencies. Our 'Homeland Security' is neither secure nor retaining OUR Homeland which we used to be accustomed to. If you don't believe, take the example of the TERRORIST group called tsa!"
What? You don't like or Heimland Sicherhietsdienst or That Stupid Agency? I can't say I blame you, but in this case it is not so much the fault of DHS. If the private organizations don't report the intrusion to CERT, there is nothing they can do. Believe me, I speak of personal experience.
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gus8441

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:25:30 AM
uh oh
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jem069

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Detroit
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:23:49 AM
Ok
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frostyWV

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:22:00 AM
not good.
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:21:43 AM
The controls of the pipelines should be on private networks not connected to the internet.
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:21:10 AM
“Spear-phishers send targeted emails to specific individuals that seem to come from friends or associates, and when opened, attachments or links in the emails release malware . . . .”
Be very careful about e-mail links and attachments. Use only plain text for e-mail, never html, and do not click on links or open attachments unless you are certain who actually sent the message and why the link or attachment is there. Nothing is 100% but these simple rules will divert almost all threats.
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nztyraider

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Nevada
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:20:58 AM
Oops.
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EVBuddy

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Nevada
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:20:40 AM
This really needs to stop
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nomad228

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Columbus
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:18:39 AM
like i said before, track em down and cur their digits off. : )
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tedjm1

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New York
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:18:02 AM
Hopefully the people do not open any email they are NOT sure of, or have verified user.
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AKmailman

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Alaska
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:17:26 AM
just china finding a way to route more oil their way
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btex49

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Austin
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:15:01 AM
It would not surprise me if China were behind the hacking into the controls of our gas pipelines.
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kgbellman

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Ann Arbor
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:14:32 AM
Not sure I understand the motive
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:14:23 AM
Either Chinks or chumps are having a field day invading the weak defenses of pipeline protocols...
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pastorpaulcg

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:13:55 AM
Bush's fault
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AnObserver

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:13:46 AM
Many infrastructure organizations have the same concers - consuder nuclear power plants, for one
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crreed1

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:13:14 AM
ok
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KnoxGasPriceSpy

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Knoxville
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:11:03 AM
sounds like a false flag...
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Colts13

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Indiana
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:10:32 AM
Ok.
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thuathienhue

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:09:31 AM
North America needs keep together
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bobdec

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Miami
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:08:40 AM
Great hope they inflict big damage on DHS
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regout

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Quebec
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:08:18 AM
Capture them and put them in prison, in Guantanamo.
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yakstar

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Montreal
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:07:53 AM
sweet b jesus...
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danreino

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:07:38 AM
Do unto on us as they've done to you, but what the hell is this world coming to ?
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PrinceLH

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Ontario
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:06:59 AM
Capture them and put them in prison, in Madagascar.
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HKL

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:05:43 AM
ok
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Raider44

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Allentown
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:05:26 AM
Another crisis the government can 'rescue' us from.
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mgune9

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Dallas
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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 12:00:27 AM
of course -- we need a new excuse to get prices on the uptrend again
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USCCRN

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Long Island
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:58:46 PM
We need more security for our cyber-infrastructures.
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silverfoxv65

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:58:10 PM
Ok
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:50:45 PM
why us?
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us4usa

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Missouri
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:50:28 PM
""I would be surprised if it is being done by someone other than china. Who else wants to destroy america... obummer ? The EPA ? could be !""
Don't think its China, at some point they want us to repay our loans to them...
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ortegs12009

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California
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:42:22 PM
ok i guess
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ExplorerWA

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Washington
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:38:34 PM
It's another false flag so the government can take control of the internet to protect us.
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IUVidiot

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Indiana
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:33:10 PM
ok
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kgbellman

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Ann Arbor
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:31:42 PM
Not sure I understand the motive
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iamforiu

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Indiana
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:30:10 PM
ok
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sdiddydaddy

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:27:03 PM
bunch of losers with nothing better to do.
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mplato

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Columbia
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:26:47 PM
thats all we need...cyber attacks with "Live Free or Die Hard" on now fighting the same thing.
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Paw5X

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Gary
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:25:02 PM
Send in the Marines!!
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