mr157ifhz
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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 7:47:57 AM
Diesel fuel has cost quite a bit more than gasoline in my area lately, negating somewhat a diesel's sometimes much better mileage. My nieghbor had a Geo Metro that averaged 55mpg, if he still had it it would be much cheaper for him to drive than if he had a '96 TDI diesel... TimmyC4, maybe trade your VW for an old Geo? Then you could run E85!
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 11:03:35 PM
timmyc4...not a joke! I don't like diesels because of the smell and fumes...sorry!
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timmyC4
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 5:01:00 PM
"Flex-Fuel" what a joke.
Buy a diesel.
My 96 TDI just got 56mpg @ 60mph w/10% city driving.
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 1:27:10 PM
Thanks!
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:35:48 PM
gamechanger2011 wrote: "Can a supercharged engine run better on E85 if converted?"
Yes.
gamechanger2011 wrote: "What is the difference between turbocharged and supercharged."
What is the difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger on a cars engine?
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:29:02 PM
What is the difference between turbocharged and supercharged. Can a supercharged engine run better on E85 if converted?
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:25:32 PM
Thanks KC...that's what I was thinking!
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krzysiek_ck
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:22:49 PM
gamechanger2011 wrote: "so this sounds to me like if a car with a turbo engine that requires premium were converted, it would run efficiently of E85."
E85 works as good if not better than the racing fuel in the forced induction engines.
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:18:11 PM
Good to know! E85 is higher octane and much cheaper then premium. My guess is that they would run better because of the increase in octane.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:15:45 PM
gamechanger2011, high compression engines also do well on ethanol.
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gamechanger2011
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 12:13:38 PM
Silverstreaker...so this sounds to me like if a car with a turbo engine that requires premium were converted, it would run efficiently of E85.
[Edited by: gamechanger2011 at 4/26/2012 12:15:08 PM EST]
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 11:04:34 AM
As I said before, automobile manufacturers are not interested in ethanol, other then how it relates to their ability to bypass C.A.F.E. standards...
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 10:24:08 AM
Shockjock1961, a real scientist would be able to comprehend that ethanol is a more efficient fuel than gasoline. The technology has been available, but the car manufacturers keep building their junk. A More Efficient Ethanol Engine has been available for years. "An improved flex-fuel engine will allow vehicles to get better fuel efficiency from a mix of ethanol and gasoline. The pressure within the engine changes to adapt to different fuel blends. This, together with the use of turbochargers, makes it almost as efficient as a diesel engine, according to its developers."
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 9:25:47 AM
"That's because the car manufacturers refuse to make fuel efficient FFVs"
That's because the auto manufacturers know what a white elephant E85 is. They only build FFV's so that they have the means to bypass the C.A.F.E. regulations...
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mr157ifhz
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 7:11:31 AM
'That's because the car manufacturers refuse to make fuel efficient FFVs'
spot on.
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SilverStreaker
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Message Posted: Apr 26, 2012 1:20:46 AM
Shockjock1961 says "You can't get people who CHOOSE to buy a Flex Fueled vehicle to buy E85."That's because the car manufacturers refuse to make fuel efficient FFVs.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 9:46:54 AM
You can't get people who CHOOSE to buy a Flex Fueled vehicle to buy E85. Why do you think mandating Flex Fuel would make a difference, other then making auto's more expensive for everyone?
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reb4
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2012 8:32:47 AM
The author has an interesting history...
McFarlane is an interesting charachter. Don't agree with all of his thoughts. He has also written articles indicatin the more oil produced that Opec will reduce the oil the produce to keep oil high. But isn't that what a "mandate" is doing? And much of the price of oil is due to speculation. So the more ethanol comes into play, the more speculation will have an impact in not only that product but subsequent fodod supply.
Or maybe that's what is meand by "pro market"?
[Edited by: reb4 at 3/13/2012 8:33:25 AM EST]
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